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New High Speed Rail Comments

Modern Railroad considerations

This pertains to the recent PATCH article describing a possible new High-speed rail route to be built by Amtrak in the future. Here is some additional info.

The existing shoreline route has too many sharp curves that affect the large wheels of the current high speed "Acela" trains...an engineering oversight. They are trying to attract more business customers by creating faster trip times between Boston and NYC, catering to the higher paying clients and being more competitive with the airlines.

If you watch the current trains traveling through Groton/Mystic, the more conventional electric trains (with smaller wheels) seem to go FASTER through all the curves. I'm told the only safe place the high speed "Acela" trains can go well over 100 MPH is a straight track section of a few miles in Rhode Island, between Providence and Boston.

As a footnote, one of the present Hi-speed "Acela" trains doesn't stop in CT even now, while only 3 stop in New London, out of a total of 32 trains going north or south. This is the simplest way to speed the trip NY to Boston and back...by eliminating route stops. The train speed, as noted above, isn't as much of a factor with the existing shoreline route.

So again...a new inland route via Hartford with straighter runs allowing higher speeds would make the difference. It could join the older, existing straighter track route above Providence.

However, what a shame that more attention isn't being given to the concept of "light rail" to serve local transportation needs.

Somewhere, someone is kicking themselves for closing up all the old trolley interurban routes and tearing up the old rail beds.

Lee Vincent August 25, 2012 at 12:43 am
When Acela train started running on the corridor, I was shocked that they only had six cars on a trainset. All the important stations can handle eight or more cars. Just recently, it was admitted that having only six was a blunder by Amtrak. I was a Federal enployee almost 30 years, but I can't imagine how any person or committee could have been so stupid.
Ed Johnson August 25, 2012 at 01:32 am
I didn't know about the six car blunder until now. I often felt that with the TWO electric streamlined engines, one at each end, there would be more than enough power to add more cars and still hit the desired high speeds.
Lee Vincent August 25, 2012 at 10:47 pm
It is enough power. The old AEM-7s often pull seven and eight cars. Plus, unless both engines are working, then the Acela trains pull all that dead weight of the 'extra' locomotive back and forth from Washington to Boston. I don't know if this is good or bad news, but the reason I found out that sone insiders consider the six-car trains a blunder is that Amtrak has begun to consider the criteria for replacement for the Acela train sets. Meanwhile the AmFleet trains still do great duty every day and night. I ride them often to New Haven on my way to NYC.
I used to ride Metroliners from DC to NYC a lot. The fastest Acelas are no more than 4 minutes faster than the fastest Metroliner was in the 1980s and 90s. We had an "express metroliner" that left DC at 6:00 a.m. and arrived NY Penn at 8:25, getting me to an 8:30 meeting at 23rd Street.
Ed Johnson August 26, 2012 at 02:01 am
I know both engines are SUPPOSED to be working, and that the rear engine is making the same "noises" as the front one as they go past. If not....ouch! What a waste of power. As for the Metroliners, I'm actually not surprised to hear that. I know they went over 100 MPH on the straightaways....

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